Trump Would Shut Down Government Over A Border Wall; Some Say He Should

By Susan Jones | September 12, 2018 | 6:03 AM EDT

President Trump hears the same phrase over and over again at his rallies, including this one in Montana: "Build the wall!" (Photo: Screen capture)

( - President Donald Trump drew cheers at a rally in Montana last week when he said, "If it was up to me, I would shut down government over border security."

Trump said he wants to build his long-promised wall along the Southwest border, but people such as Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have said they'd rather wait until after the midterm election. "They don't want to do anything to upset the apple cart," Trump said.

On her Fox News cable show Tuesday night, Laura Ingraham said the wall has been -- and still is -- a "winning issue for Republicans" as well as a "necessary security measure" for the country.

Ingraham spoke to Jason Owens, the deputy chief of the Laredo, Texas border sector, asking him -- "Would a wall help or not?"

"Yes, it absolutely would," Owens replied.

He noted that we already have 700 miles of fencing along the 2,000-mile border with Mexico. "It's not enough," he said:

What we have right now is not enough to fully secure the border. We had nearly 20,000 men and women in the U.S. Border patrol, almost 2,000 in the Laredo sector alone. It's not enough. We still have people getting through, we still have things that are coming across our border that we don't know about.

If we want to have a secure border, if we want to truly protect this country and what it stands for, these are things that we need. And as subject matter experts that have done this job for decades on end, we're telling you, we need a wall, we need infrastructure, we need roads to be able to respond, we need cameras be able to detect the traffic that's coming across and we need the brave men and women out there to do the job right.

Also appearing on Ingraham's show was Univision anchor Enrique Acevedo, an opponent of what he called a "militarized" border. Acevedo argued that the U.S. should invest in eradicating the root causes of illegal immigration -- poverty and violence in failed Central American countries.

Acevedo said a wall will not stop people desperate to leave all that behind.

But the violence is coming here, Ingraham argued, and Owens agreed with her:

One of the things I think is important to remember is we're not just talking about the flow, the volume of traffic coming across, but what that traffic consists of. Now you referenced some MS-13 members and gang members. I can tell you in my sector alone -- one of nine along the Southwest border -- we've already caught almost 50 known gang members this year alone. Over 770 criminal aliens that have been deported and came back after committing violent crimes, murder, assault, rape, you name it.

These are the type of folks that are coming across that represent a threat to us. That's the ones we're concerned with. We need to know about, we need to know that they're coming across and we need to be able to stop them. A wall helps us do that. It also perpetuates lawful trade and travel because it takes that criminal element away. If they cannot exploit the week and porous border, they have no reason to exist. And both sides of the border, both communities, thrive.

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