Former Homeland Security Advisor: Theory That Ukraine Hacked DNC Server ‘Completely Debunked’

By Melanie Arter | September 30, 2019 | 7:30pm EDT
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( - Former Homeland Security Advisor Tom Bossert told ABC’s “This Week with George Stephanopolous” on Sunday that when he worked for the Trump administration, he told President Donald Trump that the theory that Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the DNC server or Hillary Clinton’s emails has been “completely debunked.”

“Now, what the president is referring to there is a debunked conspiracy theory that somehow Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the Democratic emails in 2016 and that Ukraine might have the DNC server or Hillary’s emails. The details are both convoluted and false, and during your time in the White House, you explained that to the president, right?” Stephanopolus asked.


“I did. It’s not only a conspiracy theory, it is completely debunked. You know, I don’t want to be glib about this matter, but last year retired former Senator Judd Gregg wrote a piece in The Hill Magazine, saying the three ways or the five ways to impeach oneself, and the third way was to hire Rudy Giuliani. And at this point I am deeply frustrated with what he and the legal team is doing and repeating that debunked theory to the president. It sticks in his mind when he hears it over and over again,” Bossert said.

“And for clarity here, George, let me just again repeat that it has no validity. United States government reached its conclusion on attributing to Russia the DNC hack in 2016 before it even communicated it to the FBI, long before the FBI ever knocked on the door at the DNC,” he said.



“So a server inside the DNC was not relevant to our determination to the attribution. It was made up front and beforehand, and so while servers can be important in some of the investigations that followed, it has nothing to do with the U.S. government’s attribution of Russia of the DNC hack,” Bossert said.

When asked to explain why Trump brought up the server in the call with the Ukrainian president and whether it was a form of pressure, Bossert said, “Well, I didn’t see, like others have seen, pressure in this call.

“I understand why people are interpreting it that way, but I’ve spent a lot of time with this president, and I can easily see other reasons for why this president might have delayed the aide to Ukraine and those Javelin missiles. In fact, as you know, President Obama considered this deeply and decided not to provide lethal military support. President Trump and I and others spent quite a bit of time talking about this,” he said.

“In fact, in the call itself, although there are a lot of other reasons, he alludes to one that’s kind of quintessentially Donald Trump, and that is his frustration that Angela Merkel and the German nation member of NATO is doing nothing to help Ukraine, and he expressed some lamentation over that fact. So why he delayed is the key question. And you know, important, George, to remind everyone that he did ultimately provide the money and the Javelin missiles,” Bossert said.


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