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Ben Shapiro Challenges Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I Would Love to Debate Her’

Michael Morris
By Michael Morris | August 8, 2018 | 4:08 PM EDT

Self-described Democratic Socialist and New York Democratic candidate for Congress Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (left)and host of "The Ben Shapiro Show" and Editor-in-Chief of the Daily Wire Ben Shapiro (right) (Screenshots)

On his daily Facebook live podcast “The Ben Shapiro Show” Wednesday, host and Editor-in-Chief of the Daily Wire Ben Shapiro challenged Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to a debate, saying, “I would love to debate her.”

“By the way, I’ve received a lot of emails: ‘Would I debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?’ asked Ben Shapiro. “I would pay money to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign to debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I would pay her money to come on the Sunday special. I would give money to her campaign if it meant that she would actually come on the Sunday special and answer some serious questions from somebody on the other side of the aisle.”

Later in his show, Shapiro reiterated, “I would love to debate her because I have one question for her: Name an industry you would not nationalize; which ones should the government not run and why? Alright, can she name any of them?”

Ben Shapiro’s remarks came after Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez went on Pod Save America with Jon Lovett to discuss, according to Pod Save America’s Facebook video interview with the New York Democratic Socialist, “her surprising primary win, the future of the Democratic party, what it means to be a Democratic Socialist, pushback from moderates and conservatives, and all of the questions people sent in before the interview.”

Below is a transcript of Ben Shapiro’s comments from his show on Wednesday:

Ben Shapiro: “By the way, I’ve received a lot of emails: ‘Would I debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?’ I would pay money to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign to debate Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I would pay her money to come on the Sunday Special. I would give money to her campaign if it meant that she would actually come on the Sunday Special and answer some serious questions from somebody on the other side of the aisle.

“But there’s a reason that she’s only existing in the safe space of Pod Save America where they’re just going to ask her questions like: ‘Alexandria, where do you get that lipstick?’ ‘Alexandria, how do you do your hair in the mornings?’ ‘Alexandria, can you talk to us about how Republicans are mean and cruel?

“Okay, so, she was asked yesterday, again, on Pod Save America, a podcast run by the ‘Obama Bros,’ right? I mean, it’s a bunch of Obama people who are running that podcast. And they love her because secretly she represents their id. She says all the dumb things they wish they could say, but then they’re superego kicks in and they say, ‘Perhaps I should not say this out loud because it’s a stupid thing.’ She doesn’t have any brain-to-mouth filter when it comes to this stuff.

“So, she was asked specifically about how she was going to pay for all of her plans. It did not go well.”

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez on Pod Save America: “You know, they say, ‘How are you gonna pay for it?’ as though they haven’t used these same ways to pay for unlimited wars, to pay for trillion-dollar tax cuts and tax cut extensions. They use these mechanisms to pay for these things all the time. They only want to know— It just seems like their pockets are only empty when we’re talking about education and investing in human capital in the United States: education, health care, housing and investing in the middle class. All of a sudden, you know, there’s nothing left. All of a sudden, the wealthiest nation in the world, we’re just totally scarce. We have complete scarcity when it comes to the things that are most important.”

 

Shapiro: “Okay, so, I do love the fact that the original question here was, ‘How do you pay for things?’ and her answer is ‘Nobody pays for things.’

“Thank you, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for that brilliant exposition on the debt and deficit in the United States.

“By the way, when she says things like, ‘The only thing we invest in is tax cuts and wars. That’s all we invest in.’ This year we will spend $4.3 trillion, the federal government will spend $4.3 trillion this year. What percentage of that goes to the military? Okay? Any guesses?

“Any guesses in the room? Any guesses?

“What percentage of that $4.3 trillion goes to the American military establishment, including the vets? How much?

“Senya, you got a guess? What percent? Okay, Senya says, ‘60 goes to the military.’

“Jess, any guesses on what percentage of the American federal budget goes to the military? Jess? ‘30.’

“Okay, the answer is 16 percent of the federal budget goes to the American military. The remainder goes to all of the supposed priorities that we are supposedly ignoring, according to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. 62 percent of the entire federal budget goes to mandatory spending under Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. The vast majority goes to social welfare programs that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez says we are spending too little money on.

“The fact is the amount of money we spend per capita in the United States on social welfare programs is actually almost on par with that of the European countries, and actually surpasses some of the European countries.

“Okay? We are spending a butt-load of money on all of these priorities that she says we are not spending money on.

“It’s just a lie that we’re spending it all on ‘tax cuts.’ First of all, that’s not an expenditure. That’s me keeping my own money. And then when she says we’re not investing in the middle class, understand that when she says that we’re not investing in the middle class, what she means is we’re supposed to tax the living hell out of everyone who makes more than 30 grand in the United States, and then we’ll pass it back to the people at the lower end of the income spectrum for investment in garbage government programs that do not result in higher productivity, higher wages, or higher employment. That is her actual plan.

“I would love, I mean, when people say, ‘Would you debate her?’ I would love to debate her because I have one question for her: Name an industry you would not nationalize; which ones should the government not run and why? Alright, can she name any of them? I have serious doubts.

“She says she wants to abolish the profit motive. Okay, well then she’s going to have to explain how she abolishes the profit motive without abolishing private industry, or would she just abolish it? Or why does the Democratic Party think this is a good idea?”


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