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Gordon Chang: 'We Have to Start Cutting the Links With China's Regime'

Emily Robertson | January 31, 2022 | 4:13pm EST
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“What we have to do is start cutting the links with China’s regime,” Gordon Chang, author of "The Coming Collapse of China," told Mark Levin on Fox News Sunday. 

Chang discussed China and America’s relationship, specifically the financial ties between the Chinese regime and corporate America and how China has taken control over America’s culture, while appearing on "Life, Liberty & Levin."

"When you see cultural icons like Lebron James and others defending that regime, or the Democrat Party utterly rejecting any kind of a resolution and so forth, respecting what’s going on with the Uighurs, the Communist Chinese regime says, ‘You know, we’ve gotten a lot for our money here. We’ve spread our money all over the place, whether it’s one political family or another, one political party or another, lobbyists, colleges, universities. We’ve spread money along for athletic wear and in entertainment, so we own that culture more than the Americans own their own culture.' They at least have to be feeling pretty good about that, don’t they?” asked Levin.

Chang responded:

"Well, they do because when you look at America’s financial and corporate elites and the board rooms, they’re more loyal to Beijing than they are to Washington and the American people can see this and they’re horrified at this, but Beijing has spent decades trying to pervert the American political institutions and to buy off allies in the United States and they’ve been extremely successful with that.”

Below is a transcript of this segment of the show: 

Mark Levin: “When you observe what’s been taking place as a result of this pandemic, when you look at the reaction of corporate America, they just keep bustling along like nothing’s going on, pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into Communist China. When you see cultural icons like Lebron James and others defending that regime, or the Democrat Party utterly rejecting any kind of a resolution and so forth, respecting what’s going on with the Uighurs, the Communist Chinese regime says, ‘You know, we’ve gotten a lot for our money here. We’ve spread our money all over the place, whether it’s one political family or another, one political party or another, lobbyists, colleges, universities. We’ve spread money along for athletic wear and in entertainment, so we own that culture more than the Americans own their own culture.' They at least have to be feeling pretty good about that, don’t they?” 

Gordon Chang: “Well, they do because when you look at America’s financial and corporate elites and the board rooms, they’re more loyal to Beijing than they are to Washington and the American people can see this and they’re horrified at this, but Beijing has spent decades trying to pervert the American political institutions and to buy off allies in the United States and they’ve been extremely successful with that.”

Levin: “And particularly Joe Biden, with all of the information that’s out there, the Biden family, and now this report, that $31 million was conveyed to that family, to one member or another to influence him. I don’t know how you get around this and it’s not just Joe Biden, it’s former speakers of the House, the current speaker, it’s the Bush family they talk about, certain members of the Bush family, the media taking junkets over there, and academia. There was a time in this country when we had great patriots in politics, great patriots in our corporations, rather than this sort of activity going on. Taking a bigger picture of this, do you think that we are, not permanently, but crumbling from within? I don’t mean that it can’t be reversed, but we're at each other’s throats, we don’t have leadership, we don’t have strong people telling us where we stand, what’s going on in China and Russia and so forth. We get little blips in the news here and there. It seems like different times to me, very grave.”

Chang: “Extremely grave -- we don’t have a Ronald Reagan. What we have to do is start cutting the links with China’s regime. Some people might say that’s extreme, but China exploits every point of contact with the United States, as you just talked about and they are trying to overthrow our government. So, until we can handle this, we have got to cut trade, we've got to cut investment, the technical cooperation, all the rest of it because if we don’t, we’re just not going to have a country, Mark.”   

Emily Robertson is a CNSNews intern and a senior at Liberty University studying Strategic Communication with a double minor in Government and Politics & Policy. She has written for the Liberty Champion as an opinion writer and news reporter, as well as participated in other extracurricular activities involving law and politics.

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