Kennedy on DOJ IG Report: ‘25% of the Way Through, I Thought I Had Dropped Acid’

By Melanie Arter | December 12, 2019 | 2:57pm EST
(Photo credit should read BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images)
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( – Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) said Wednesday that when he started reading the DOJ inspector general’s report on FISA warrant abuses, when he was a quarter of the way through it, he thought he “had dropped acid.”

“I haven't read the entire report. I'm about 70% of the way through, but I’m gonna finish it. It’s tedious. I don't mean that in a pejorative sense. It’s supposed to be tedious. After about 15% of the way through, it made me want to heave. After about 25% of the way through, I thought I had dropped acid. It is surreal. I mean, I just couldn't believe it,” he said.


DOJ IG Michael Horowitz admitted that some of the agents involved in the FBI’s investigation into Russian collusion with the Trump campaign to influence the 2016 election, also known as the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, still work at the agency.

KENNEDY: Let me ask you this, how many members comprised the Misfire Hurricane team? 

HOROWITZ: There were three teams. Over that period of time, I would venture to guess, again depending upon how you count them. 

KENNEDY: Just roughly. 

HOROWITZ: At least half a dozen to a dozen on each of those iterations. I will turn around and see if I'm somewhat close. 

KENNEDY: Does that include their supervisors? 

HOROWITZ: Generally speaking. 

KENNEDY: Half dozen to a dozen? 

HOROWITZ: Probably a little bit more if you’re going all the way up the chain through all the different levels …

KENNEDY:  Do your team have a feel for how many of these folks are still at the FBI? I know you tried to answer that. 

HOROWITZ: The higher level people as you know have changed over in the last year so the director, deputy director, et cetera. The assistant director, deputy assistant director, a lot of people at the upper levels are no longer. 

KENNEDY:  But are some of the actual agents? 

HOROWITZ: Some of the agents are still there. 

KENNEDY:  Are they working on FISA applications? 

Horowitz referred Kennedy to the FBI for an answer to that question.

“It’s easier to divorce your spouse around here than it is to get fired. That’s clear, at least at the FBI. Is Mr. Orr still at the Department of Justice?” Kennedy asked.

“My understanding is he is still there,” Horowitz said.

Horowitz admitted that his report does not vindicate anyone at the FBI, including former FBI Director James Comey or former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. 

KENNEDY: Does your report vindicate Mr. Comey?

HOROWITZ: It doesn't vindicate anybody at the FBI who touched this, including leadership. 

KENNEDY: Does it vindicate Mr. McCabe? 

HOROWITZ: Same answer. 

KENNEDY: How about Ms Page? 

HOROWITZ: A little different there, because as we found here, she wasn't involved in this, so largely wasn't involved in this. 

KENNEDY: She participated. 

HOROWITZ: In some discussions, but was not in the FISA chain. 

KENNEDY: On that note, who briefed the agent that was sent to surveil Michael Flynn during the meeting with President Trump? 

HOROWITZ: That was discussed up and down the chain at the FBI. So that was not a hidden fact or hidden information. 

KENNEDY: All right. I like the fact that you and your team are very precise in your language. I mean, frankly, I wish I wrote as well as you and your team do, and I noticed you were careful to say, I'm going to quote here ‘We did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivation influenced the decisions to open the four individual investigations.’ Your words. 

HOROWITZ: Correct. 

KENNEDY: No documentary evidence and no testimonial evidence. So you didn't find any documents that said, we did this to get Trump. Right? 

HOROWITZ: Or text messages like the Strzok-Page text messages. 

KENNEDY: And nobody who was involved in this circus without a tent looked you in the eye and said, ‘yep, I did it to get Trump.’ Nobody did that. 

HOROWITZ: Or for example, a whistle-blower come in or other people tell us they had heard something like that.

KENNEDY: None of the agents you talked to looked you in the eye and said, yeah, you’re right, I did it to get Trump. 

HOROWITZ: Nobody came through a different means and said I’ve got a problem here with what’s going on. 

KENNEDY:  You don't have to qualify as MENSA material know not to do that to the inspector general, right? 

HOROWITZ: Yes, although, look at some of the text messages we found. So I'm not sure.  



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