(CNSNews.com) - "We have to stop illegal immigration," Republican Donald Trump told a nationally televised debate audience Tuesday night. "It's hurting us economically. It's hurting us from every standpoint. It's causing tremendous difficulty with respect to drugs and what that does to many of our inner cities in particular."
Trump praised a federal appeals court panel for finding that President Obama's plan to grant executive amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants is contrary to the duly enacted laws passed by Congress.
"And I will tell you, we are a country of laws," Trump said. "We need borders. We will have a wall. The wall will be built. The wall will be successful. And if you think walls don't work, all you have to do is ask Israel. The wall works, believe me. Properly done. Believe me."
Moderator Maria Bartiromo asked Trump, "Can we just send 5 million people back with no effect on economy?"
"You are going to have to send people out," Trump insisted.
"Maria, we're a country of laws. We either have a country or we don't have a country. We are a country of laws. (They're) going to have to go out, and they will come back, but they are going to have to go out and hopefully they get back.
"But we have no choice if we're going to run our country properly and if we're going to be a country."
'Come on, folks!'
Ohio Gov. John Kasich jumped in, asking if he could comment on what Trump just said:
Kasich pointed to President Ronald Reagan, who in 1986, working with Congress, allowed 3 million illegal aliens to stay in the U.S. if they were law-abiding. Reagan later issued an executive order deferring deportation of the children of those people who applied for amnesty under Congress’ new law.
"But, what didn't happen is, we didn't build the walls effectively and we didn't control the border," Kasich said. " We need to. We need to control our border just like people have to control who goes in and out of their house.
"But if people think that we are going to ship 11 million people who are law-abiding, who are in this country, and somehow pick them up at their house and ship them out of Mexico -- to Mexico, think about the families. Think about the children.
"So, you know what the answer really is? If they have been law-abiding, they pay a penalty. They get to stay. We protect the wall. Anybody else comes over, they go back.
"But for the 11 million people, come on, folks. We all know you can't pick them up and ship them across, back across the border. It's a silly argument. It is not an adult argument. It makes no sense."
'We have no choice'
Trump responded, noting that President Dwight Eisenhower managed to move 1.5 million illegal immigrants out of the United States. "They came back," Trump said.
Eisenhower "moved them again beyond the border. They came back. Didn't like it. Moved them way south. They never came back. Dwight Eisenhower. You don't get nicer. You don't get friendlier. They moved a 1.5 million out. We have no choice. We have no choice."