Graham: 'I'm Calling for Somebody in the Justice Department to Look at All Things Ukraine'

By Susan Jones | September 23, 2019 | 8:43am EDT
Democratic presidential hopeful former Vice President Joe Biden speaks during the third Democratic primary debate at Texas Southern University in Houston on September 12, 2019. (Photo by Robyn Beck/ AFP/Getty Images)

( - Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, is calling for the Justice Department to investigate the Biden family's business dealings with Ukraine.

Graham, appearing on "Sunday Morning Futures" with Maria Bartiromo, pointed to Joe Biden's comment that Trump is the one who should be investigated.

"I've never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings," an angry Joe Biden told Fox News's Peter Doocy on Saturday.

"Here's what I know,” Biden continued. “I know Trump deserves to be investigated. He's violating every basic norm of a president. You should be asking him the question, why is he on the phone with a foreign leader, trying to intimidate a foreign leader, if that's what happened...Trump's doing this because he knows I'll beat him like a drum, and he's using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me.

"Everybody who looked at this, and everybody's looked at it, says there's nothing there. Ask the right question!" Biden exclaimed.

"Here's something that really did surprise me," Graham said on Sunday:


Joe Biden said everybody's looked at this and found nothing -- who is everybody? Nobody has looked at the Ukraine and the Bidens. Nobody's looked at the role the Ukraine played in the 2016 election.

Do you think the media in America would really look at it and report on it if there was something bad for the Bidens or they unduly interfered in 2016 election.

So here is what I'm calling for. I'm calling for somebody in the Justice Department to look at all things Ukraine. We've looked at all things Russia and Trump, his family, everything about his family, every transaction between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Now it's time to see whether or not the Ukrainians released information regarding (Paul) Manafort, who was Trump's campaign manager; what relationships, if any, did the Biden world have with the Ukraine; what role, if any, did the Ukraine play in 2016 election? So nobody's looked at this but somebody should. So I'm hoping the Department of Justice will look at the Biden-Ukraine connection like we looked at the Trump-Russia connection.

Graham said "absolutely" he's calling for a DOJ investigation.

"Can you imagine it was the Trump family doing business like this?" the senator asked.

"So, you know, I like Joe Biden, I like him a lot, but you can't have it both ways here. They've done everything but turned the Trump world upside down. When it comes to this president, there are no rules, including a phone call. Everything is fair game when it comes to Trump, there are no privileges.

“So what I'm asking for is for us to take some time and effort to look at what the Ukraine may have done in the 2016 election, what role if any did the Bidens have to the Ukraine, was it proper or was it not. I promise you, the American media is not going to look at it. I'm hoping somebody at the Department of Justice will do for the Biden-Ukraine connection what we did for the Trump-Russia connection.”

Bartiromo noted that author Peter Schweitzer has said the American media "is trying to turn what was a Biden scandal into a Trump scandal."

"Well, I hope Mr. Barr doesn't allow that to happen," Graham said.

"I hope -- there's enough smoke here, there's enough concern about did the Ukraine dump information into the American political system, legal system, regarding Manafort and others, was there a relationship between the vice president's family and the Ukraine business world that was inappropriate? I don't know, somebody other than me needs to look at it and I sure as hell don't trust the media to get to the bottom of it."

Likewise, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told ABC's "This Week" that if Vice President Biden "behaved inappropriately" by "protecting his son and interven(ing) with the Ukrainian leadership in a way that was corrupt, I do think we need to get to the bottom of that...And I hope that we will. I hope that, if Vice President Biden engaged in behavior that was inappropriate, I hope the American people will come to learn that. America can't have--"

"We've seen no evidence of that yet," host Martha Raddatz interrupted.

"America cannot have our elections interfered with," Pompeo said. "And if -- if that's what took place there, if there was that kind of activity engaged in by Vice President Biden, we need to know."

"There's no evidence of that yet," Raddatz quickly repeated.

On "Fox News Sunday," Pompeo was asked if there should be an investigation into Hunter Biden's involvement with a Ukrainian gas company.

"I'll leave that to others," Pompeo responded, "but I certainly think it's appropriate if there's concerns and there's enough information to justify looking into it. The American people deserve to know if that was handled in an appropriate way by Vice President Biden."


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