Gowdy: The Battle Is Not Just With House Democrats…It’s Also With the Department of Justice

By Susan Jones | October 30, 2017 | 6:30am EDT
Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) (Photo: Screen grab/"Fox News Sunday")

(CNSNews.com) – House Democrats “want all the facts” in the Trump-Russia investigation, “except who financed the dossier,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, told "Fox News Sunday."

Gowdy also complained about the Trump Justice Department, saying it’s no different than the Obama Justice Department when it comes to “transparency.”



Gowdy said House Republicans have been trying for a long time to find out if the FBI based its original Trump-Russia investigation on the unverified dossier (paid for by the Clinton team and Democrats), and whether the Obama administration then used that dossier to get FISA court warrants to wiretap Trump associates.

“We've been trying for a long time to get the Department of Justice to give us access to this information, and frankly it took the speaker of the House this week to tell the department that we're not going away,” Gowdy told host Chris Wallace.

“You know, Chris, people don't like it when I say this, but it's actually true -- it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between the Obama Department of Justice and the current Department of Justice in terms of transparency and their willingness to share information with Congress.

“This is a really simple request. Did you rely on the dossier? And if so, did you vet it before you relied upon it? You can answer that in 30 seconds," Gowdy said. "But it's taken three months for the Department of Justice, and only recently have they agreed to give us the information.”

As CNSNews.com reported, the FBI informed House Republicans last week that it intends to comply with a subpoena issued in August for documents related to the Trump dossier.

Wallace asked Gowdy about the “significance” of the revelation that the Clinton campaign and the Democrat National Committee paid for opposition research that used a former British spy, working with Russian operatives, to put together a dossier that includes wild accusations against Trump.

“Well, one of the areas of significance is just how hard the Democrats in Congress fault Republicans for trying to gain access to this information,” Gowdy said.

“If it were up to Adam Schiff and other Democrats, who, of course, want all the facts to come out, they want all the facts of Russia to come out, except who financed the dossier. So, that's the most important thing to me is how unserious the Democrats in the House have been about uncovering all of the facts.

"I am interested in who paid for the dossier because that helps you understand motive and intent and whether or not you can rely on the document. I am much more interested in whether or not the Department of Justice and the FBI relied upon that dossier and initiating a counterintelligence investigation or in court findings. That is really important to me."

Wallace asked Gowdy if there is “harder evidence of collusion between Clinton and the Russians” than there is between Trump and the Russians.


Gowdy responded:

You know, Chris, there are five words that start with C -- collusion, coordination, conspiracy, contacts, and coincidence. Where this falls out in those five Cs, I don't know. The word collusion has a criminal connotation to it.

I think the premise of your question is accurate. For a long time, we've heard about all the ties between the Trump campaign and Russia, for which there is no evidence, and lo and behold, despite serious Democrat opposition, we have uncovered that the DNC was working with Russian actors to try to disparage Donald Trump's reputation.

So, it's certainly interesting whether it's collusion, coincidence, coordination, I don't know yet.

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