CNSNews.com - In the Democratic presidential debate hosted by ABC News in New Hampshire on Saturday night, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that ISIS is “showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists.” Donald Trump responded by tweeting that "Hillary Clinton lied” and then stood by his Tweet in an interview on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday morning.
On the same edition of ABC’s “This Week,” Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri said that Clinton “didn’t have a particular video in mind” when she said that ISIS was “showing videos of Donald Trump” to recruit jihadists, but that ISIS was using Trump “in social media.”
Here are excerpts from what Clinton said about Trump in Saturday night’s debate:
Clinton: “I worry greatly that the rhetoric coming from the Republicans, particularly Donald Trump, is sending a message to Muslims here in the United States and literally around the world that there is a ‘clash of civilizations,’ that there is some kind of Western plot or even ‘war against Islam,’ which then I believe fans the flames of radicalization.
"So guns have to be looked at as its own problem, but we also have to figure out how we're going to deal with the radicalization here in the United States…"
Clinton: ...“Mr. Trump has a great capacity to use bluster and bigotry to inflame people and to make them think there are easy answers to very complex questions. So what I would say is, number one, we need to be united against the threats that we face. We need to have everybody in our country focused on watching what happens and reporting it if it's suspicious, reporting what you hear. Making sure that Muslim Americans don't feel left out or marginalized at the very moment when we need their help….
“And we also need to make sure that the really discriminatory messages that Trump is sending around the world don't fall on receptive ears. He is becoming ISIS's best recruiter. They are going to people showing videos of Donald Trump insulting Islam and Muslims in order to recruit more radical jihadists. So I want to explain why this is not in America's interest to react with this kind of fear and respond to this sort of bigotry."
Here is what Trump said in response on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday morning:
ABC News Correspondent Jonathan Karl: “As you heard, an explosive allegation from Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump, saying that ISIS is showing videos of Trump to recruit potential new jihadists. We asked the Clinton camp where they got that from. They have not offered, George, any direct evidence that had happened. Donald Trump, for his part, overnight, Tweeted simply, ‘Hillary Clinton lied.’”
George Stephanopoulos: "OK, Jon Karl, thanks very much. Let's talk to Mr. Trump right now. We saw that Tweet, Mr. Trump. Are you going to stand by it?
Donald Trump: "Well, of course I'm standing by it. It was vetted. They went to The Washington Post. Fox News went out in great detail and looked for it and there's no such video. And they may make one up, knowing the Clintons and knowing Hillary, but there's no, there's nobody. She just made it up. I mean she made it up. It was a sound bite."
Here is what Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri said on “This Week:"
Stephanopoulos: "Your response to Donald Trump?"
Palmieri: "You know, Donald Trump I think was talking--you know, what Secretary Clinton was saying last night is that one of the many dangerous things about Donald Trump is that his hot rhetoric saying we should not allow Muslim refugees into the country is being used--and this is something that the SITE international group has, who monitors social media and on ISIS has said that--
Stephanopoulos: "But there have been no videos."
Palmieri: "Well, what they have said is that they are using him--he's being used in social media by ISIS as propaganda. She didn't have a particular video in mind, but he is being used in social media. And, you know, what they haven't found is, this group hasn't found, a video that, you know, Mr. Trump keeps talking about this alleged mystery video of thousands of people in Jersey cheering the collapse of the World Trade Center. But it is true that he is being used in social media by ISIS to help recruit and propaganda."
Stephanopoulos: "But to be fair, you don't have a video, as she said."
Palmieri: "She is not referring to a specific video. But he is being used in social media by ISIS as propaganda. SITE International Group, which monitors, this is what they do, they monitor ISIS on social media, they monitor other terrorist groups on social media, to see what they are using, and they have said that they are using him in social media as propaganda to help recruit supporters."
In a written report on Sunday morning, ABC News said the following:
“Many fact checkers and national security experts have been unable to verify Clinton's claim. White House and National Security Council officials would also not support her assertion, telling ABC News they are unaware of any examples of ISIS including Trump in the group's videos.
“When asked about the remark following the debate, the Clinton campaign pointed to a comment from an analyst for the SITE Intelligence Group to NBC News. The report did not mention videos, however, and some national security experts dispute the characterization that Trump is being used as a recruitment tool by key ISIS influencers at all.”