On nationally syndicated radio talk show host Mark Levin’s Fox News Show “Life, Liberty & Levin” on Sunday, Citizens for Self Governance President and Founder of the “Convention of States” Project Mark Meckler told Levin that the Convention of States is the “battle of our generation, literally” between the progressive and constitutionalist vision of the future.
“[T]his is the battle of our generation, literally, because the question is: the progressive vision of the future or the founders and the constitutionalists vision of the future,” Mark Meckler told Mark Levin.
Below is a transcript between Mark Levin, Mark Meckler and Former Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.):
Mark Levin: “Isn’t this the big battle between constitutionalism and progressivism because the progressives reject, at least, as I said, their intellectual forefathers, the Constitution? They do not like the way it's set up. They want centralized decision-making like they had in Europe, Hagel, Marx, whatever you want to call it, socialism, communism, soft communism.
“This separation of powers stuff, where individuals make decisions – individuals are not allowed to make decisions. Decisions have to be made for the general good, the community. Isn't that ultimately the battle that we're facing right now?”
Former Senator Tom Coburn: “Absolutely, and that’s the direction we're going. And with that comes the loss of liberty, the loss of decision-making, the loss of freedom in the long term and tremendous debt. I mean, how do you think we got to $22 trillion in debt?
“You can take some of it for the war in the Middle East, but the rest of it is members of congress expanding social programs without raising the revenue to pay for them. I mean, that's why we’re where we are. And that's nothing but pure socialism. We just didn't tax to pay for it.”
Mark Meckler: “And Mark, this is the battle of our generation, literally, because the question is the progressive vision of the future or the founders and the constitutionalists vision of the future. And the progressives are aligning against this. Hundreds of groups are literally speaking out against it. We see new pieces every day. They're attacking it in the culture, in The Atlantic and Esquire.”
Levin: Unions, environmental groups, left-wing think tanks, so-called consumer groups, a whole panoply of the left.
Meckler: “Over 250 of them signed a press release together attacking this saying it is the most dangerous thing that could happen in America. What they said— They don’t usually tell the truth. They actually said something truthful. They said, ‘This is intended to reverse 115 years of progressivism,’ and we say, ‘Yes, it is.’”