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Levin: CRT Is About Storytelling, Not Statistics

By Ashlianna Kreiner | June 30, 2021 | 5:55pm EDT
Conservative talk-show host Mark Levin speaks during the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) 2016. (Photo credit: SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
Conservative talk-show host Mark Levin speaks during the annual Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) 2016. (Photo credit: SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)

Critical race theory is "not about statistics, or knowledge, or experience, or facts," conservative author Mark Levin said Tuesday on the “Mark Levin Show.” "It’s about storytelling."

Levin was commenting on MSNBC host Joy Reid’s interview with Ibram Kendi, author of “How to Be an Anti-Racist."

“According to critical race theory, if you're white, you are a racist," Levin continued. "You’re born a racist, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. It’s in your DNA."

Below is the transcript of the segment: 

Joy Reid: What they are objecting to is a factual analysis of our history, once and all. 

Levin: Nobody’s objecting to a factual analysis of our history. You are such a dim bulb; you don’t even know what critical race theory is, or you do and you’re a flat-out, bald-faced liar. Tremendous historians have come forward, Pulitzer Prize winners, who have no political parties, some of them are actually liberals, who have nothing but contempt for the 1619 Project, critical race theory. Even the more modern promoter and one of the founding fathers at Harvard Law School, Derrick Bell, even he talked about -- and this is critical, in critical race theory, as you'll see when you read the book -- it’s not about statistics, or knowledge, or experience, or facts, it’s about storytelling. That is key to understanding critical race theory, storytelling, because they really don’t want to talk about history. Go ahead. 

Reid: But what they’re doing is far more pernicious. They’ve taken legitimate calls for critical self-reflection and demonized it into a --

Levin: Do you have critical self-reflection for being the bigot you were in the posts you put up, anti-homosexual posts? You lied about it; you said somebody hacked your site. You have self-reflection? Can it be racist who [sic] weren’t white? Do they have self-reflection? What if you’re not a racist? What do you need self-reflection for? But according to critical race theory, if you're white, you are a racist; you’re born a racist, and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it. It’s in your DNA. Now, she brings Ibram Kendi on, who's become a multimillionaire, he’s like an associate professor of, you know, nitwittery or whatever he does. “No, no, no, no, we’re not talking about” -- I read your book, your latest book, you idiot. Yes, you are. Cut three, go. 

Reid: Do you believe that white Americans are inherently racist?

Ibram Kendi: Oh I do not, and and indeed, in “How to Be an Anti-Racist,” I make the case that we shouldn’t believe that anyone is inherently racist or that we should identify anyone as a racist. And I make the case that racist isn’t a fixed category; it’s a descriptive term.

Levin: You know why he does that? You know why he does that, Mr. Producer and America? Because a category would be like, the Klan is racist, right? It would be like neo-Nazis are racist, right? The white supremacists, real white supremacists -- they’re racist. You see, it’s not about them in particular, don’t you see? It is a descriptive term. What did I just tell you? It’s not about knowledge or science; it’s a descriptive term to describe all whites. Go ahead. 

Kendi: Racist describes what a person is being at any given moment, based on what they're doing or saying --

Levin: It describes what a person is being at any given moment, based on what they're doing or saying and stop lying, Ibram. It’s also what they’re not doing and saying; it’s inherent. You might even not be conscious about what’s taking place; you can’t help it. This is his book. Go ahead.

Kendi: -- saying that black people are lazy, they're being racist. But then the very next moment, they're advocating a policy that creates justice and equity for all. They've -- 

Levin: You see? You see? If she would’ve let him talk more, she cuts him off and interrupts him, but it would become obvious. You see, even if you advocate for equity, the problem is in that dumb skull of yours, you white people still think about minorities in bigoted and racist terms. You may not say so, but you do in this white-dominant society; you can’t help it. This is how you're taught; this is what goes on in your head. So you might even be for equity for all; you might even be a left-wing, white professor. You might be all these things; you're just not good enough. 

Ashlianna Kreiner is a CNSNews intern and rising senior at Christendom College, pursuing a bachelor's degree in theology with a literature minor. She has a desire to pursue truth and bring it to others, especially in the political world.

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