Trump to Biden: You Can’t Say ‘Law Enforcement’ or You’ll Lose Your Radical Left Supporters

By Melanie Arter | September 30, 2020 | 2:21pm EDT
 This combination of pictures created on September 29, 2020 shows Democratic Presidential candidate and former US Vice President Joe Biden (L) and US President Donald Trump speaking during the first presidential debate at the Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland, Ohio on September 29, 2020. (Photo by JIM WATSON,SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)
This combination of pictures created on September 29, 2020 shows Democratic Presidential candidate and former US Vice President Joe Biden (L) and US President Donald Trump speaking during the first presidential debate at the Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland Clinic in Cleveland, Ohio on September 29, 2020. (Photo by JIM WATSON,SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images)

(CNSNews.com) - President Donald Trump challenged Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden to name one law enforcement group that has endorsed him, adding that Biden can’t even say the word ‘law enforcement,’ because he’ll lose the support of the radical left.

“We just got the support of 250 military leaders and generals - total support - law enforcement, almost every law enforcement group in the United States. I have Florida. I have Texas. I have Ohio. I have every -- excuse me, Portland. The sheriff just came out today, and he said, ‘I support President Trump.’ I don't think you have any law enforcement. You can't even say the word law enforcement, because if you say those words, you're going to lose all of your radical left supporters,” Trump said Tuesday during the first presidential debate in Cleveland, Ohio, moderated by Fox News host Chris Wallace.


The president accused Biden of calling blacks “super predators” in the crime bill he co-wrote in 1994. In contrast, Trump said he’s “letting people out of jail” by signing the bipartisan First Step Act.

“You did a crime bill. 1994, you call them super predators. African-Americans. Super predators, and they have never forgotten it. So you did that, and they call you super predators. I'm letting people out of jail. You've treated the African-American population, community, you've treated the black community about as bad as anybody in this country. You did -- and that's why if you look at the polls, I'm doing better than any Republican has done in a long time because they saw what you did. You called them super predators,” Trump said.

Biden said that “the vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women” who “risk their lives every day to take care of us, but there are some bad apples.”

“When they occur, when they find them, they have to be sorted out. They have to be held accountable. They have to be held accountable, and what I'm going to do as president of the United States is call together an entire group of people at the White House - everything from civil rights groups to police officers, police chiefs, and we are going to work this out,” the former vice president said.

Wallace asked Trump why he ended racial sensitivity training for federal agencies.

“I ended it because it's racist. I ended it because a lot of people were complaining that they were asked to do things that were absolutely insane, that it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools, all over the place. You know it, and so does everybody else,” Trump said.

When asked what is radical about racial sensitivity training,” the president said, “If you were a certain person, you had no status in life. It was sort of a reversal. If you look at the people. We were paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas and frankly very sick ideas and really they were teaching people to hate our country, and I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to allow that to happen. We have to go back to the core values of this country.  They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place, and they were teaching people to hate our country. I'm not going to allow that to happen.”

Biden called Trump “a racist” and said there is racial insensitivity.

“Nobody's doing that. He is racist. Here's the deal. I know a lot more. The fact is that there is racial insensitivity. People have to be made aware of what other people feel, what insults them, what's demeaning to them. It's important to people. Many people don't want to hurt other people's feelings. It makes a big difference. It makes a gigantic difference in the way a child is able to grow up and have a sense of self-esteem. It's a little bit like how this guy and his friends looked down on so many people,” the former vice president said.

“They look down their nose on people like Irish Catholics like me who grew up in Scranton. They look down on people who don't have money. They look down on people who are of a different faith. They look down on people who are a different color. In fact, we are all Americans. The only way we are going to bring this country together is bring everybody together. There's nothing we cannot do if we do it together. We can take this on, and we can defeat racism in America,” he said.

Trump said there was “tremendous division” and “hatred” during the Obama-Biden administration. He pointed to Ferguson, Oakland, and Baltimore as examples. The president said that what he’s seeing now is less violent than what occurred during the Obama administration.

“During the Obama-Biden administration there was tremendous division. There was hatred. You look at Ferguson. You look at, you go to many places, look at Oakland. Look what happened in Oakland. Look what happened in Baltimore. Frankly, it was more violent than what I'm seeing now. The reason is that the Democrats that run these cities don't want to talk like you about law and order. You still haven't mentioned it. Are you in favor of law and order?”

Biden said he’s in favor of “law and order with justice where people get treated fairly.” He said that violent crime went down 15 or 17 percent during the Obama administration, but it’s gone up on Trump’s watch.

Below is a partial transcript of their exchange:

 

WALLACE: The issue of race. Vice President Biden, you say that President Trump's response to the violence in Charlottesville three years ago when he talked about very fine people on both sides was what directly led you to launch this run for president. President Trump, you have often said that you believe you have done more for black Americans than any president with the possible exception of Abraham Lincoln. My question for the two of you is why should voters trust you rather than your opponent to deal with the race issues facing this country over the next four years. Vice President Biden, you go first. 

BIDEN: It's about equity and equality. It's about decency. It's about the Constitution. We have never walked away from trying to require equity for everyone, equality for the whole of America but we have never accomplished it but we have never walked away from it like he has done. It's true the reason I got in the race is for those people, close your eyes, remember those people carrying torches their veins bulging, spewing anti-Semitic bile. The young woman got killed. The president said he thought they were very fine people on both sides. No president has ever said anything like that. 

The second point I’d make to you is that when Floyd was killed, Mr. Floyd was killed there was a peaceful protest in front of the White House. What did he do? He came out of his bunker, had the military use teargas on them so he could walk across to a church and hold up a Bible. What happened after that? The bishop of that very church said that it was a disgrace. The general who was with him said all he ever wants to do is divide people, not unite people at all. This is a president who's used everything as a dog whistle to try to generate racist hatred, racist division. 

This is a man who in fact, you talk about helping African-Americans. One in 1,000 African-Americans has been killed because of the coronavirus. If he doesn't do something quickly, by the end of the year, one in 500 will have been killed. One in 500 African-Americans. This man, this man is the savior of African-Americans? This man cares at all? This man has done virtually nothing. Look, the fact is you have to look at what he talks about. You have to look at what he did. What he did has been disastrous for the African-American community. 

WALLACE: President Trump, you have 2 minutes. Why should Americans trust you over your opponent to deal with race? 

TRUMP: You did a crime bill. 1994, you call them super predators. African-Americans. Super predators, and they have never forgotten it. So You did that and they call you super predators -- I'm letting people out of jail. You've treated the African-American population, community, you've treated the black community about as bad as anybody in this country. You did -- and  that's why if you look at the polls, I'm doing better than any Republican has done in a long time because they saw what you did. You called them super predators. 

You have called them worse than that because you look back at your testimony over the years. You've called them a lot worse than that. As far as the church is concerned and as far as the generals are concerned, we just got the supportive 250 military leaders and generals - total support - law enforcement, almost every law enforcement group in the United States. I have Florida. I have Texas. I have Ohio. I have every -- excuse me, Portland. The sheriff just came out today and he said I support President Trump. I don't think you have any law enforcement. You can't even say the word law enforcement because if you say those words, you're going to lose all of your radical left supporters. Why aren't you saying those words, Joe? Why don't you say the words law enforcement? 

If they called us in Portland, we would put out that fire and a half an hour, but they won't do it because they are run by a radical left Democrats. If you look at Chicago. If you look at anyplace you want to look, Seattle. They heard we were coming in the following day and they put up their hands and we got back Seattle. Minneapolis, we got back, Joe. We believe in law and order, but you don't. The top 10 cities and just about the top 40 cities are run by Democrats or in many cases, radical left. They've got you wrapped around their finger, Joe, to a point where you don't want to say anything about law and order. I'll tell you what. The people of this country want and demand law and order. You are afraid to even say it. 

WALLACE I'm going to return to the question of race. Vice President Biden, after the grand jury in the breonna Taylor case decided not to charge any of the police with homicide, you said it raises the question "Whether justice could be equally applied in America." Do you believe that there is a separate but unequal system of justice for blacks in this country? 

BIDEN: Yes, there is systemic injustice in this country In education, work, and in law enforcement. The way in which it's enforced. The vast majority of police officers are good, decent, honorable men and women. They risk their lives every day to take care of us, but there are some bad apples. When they occur, when they find them, they have to be sorted out. They have to be held accountable. They have to be held accountable and what I'm going to do as president of the United States is call together an entire group of people at the white house, everything from civil rights groups to police officers, police chiefs and we are going to work this out. 

We are going to work this out so we change the way in which we have more transparency and When these things happen. These cops aren't happy to see what happened to George Floyd. These cops aren't happy to see what happened to Breonna Taylor. Most don't like it, but we have to have a system where people are held accountable. By the way, violence and the response is never appropriate, never appropriate. Peaceful protest is. Violence is never appropriate.  

TRUMP: What is peaceful protest? They run through the middle of town and burn down your stores and kill people all over the place?


WALLACE: President Trump. I would like to continue with the issue of race. We'll get to the issue of law and order in a moment. This month your administration directed federal agencies to end racial sensitivity training that addresses white privilege or critical race theory. Why did you decide to do that, to end racial sensitivity training? Do you believe that there is systemic racism in this country, sir? 

TRUMP: I ended it because it's racist. I ended it, because a lot of people were complaining that they were asked to do things that were absolutely insane. That it was a radical revolution that was taking place in our military, in our schools. All over the place. You know it and so does everybody else. 

WALLACE: What is radical about racial sensitivity training? 

TRUMP: If you were a certain person, you had no status in life. It was sort of a reversal. If you look at the people. We were paying people hundreds of thousands of dollars to teach very bad ideas and frankly very sick ideas and really they were teaching people to hate our country, and I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to allow that to happen. We have to go back to the core values of this country.  They were teaching people that our country is a horrible place, it's a racist place, and they were teaching people to hate our country. I'm not going to allow that to happen. 

BIDEN: Nobody's doing that. He is racist. Here's the deal. I know a lot more. The fact is that there is racial insensitivity. People have to be made aware of what other people feel, what insults them. What's demeaning to them. It's important to people. Many people don't want to hurt other people's feelings. It makes a big difference. It makes a gigantic difference in the way a child is able to grow up and have a sense of self-esteem. It's a little bit like how this guy and his friends looked down on so many people. They look down their nose on people like Irish Catholics like me who grew up in Scranton. They look down on people who don't have money. They look down on people who are of a different faith. They look down on people who are a different color. In fact, we are all Americans. The only way we are going to bring this country together is bring everybody together. There's nothing we cannot do if we do it together. We can take this on, and we can defeat racism in America. 

WALLACE: President Trump. 

TRUMP: During the Obama-Biden administration there was tremendous division. There was hatred. You look at Ferguson. You look at, you go to many places, look at Oakland. Look what happened in Oakland. Look what happened in Baltimore. Frankly, it was more violent than what I'm seeing now. The reason is that the Democrats that run these cities don't want to talk like you about law and order. You still haven't mentioned it. Are you in favor of law and order? 

BIDEN: I am in favor of law, you following it---

TRUMP: Argue in favor of law and order? 

WALLACE: Let him finish. 

BIDEN: Law and order with justice where people get treated fairly. The fact is violent crime went down 17%. 15% in our administration. It's gone up on his watch. 
 

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