MSNBC Contributor: Pregnancy Involves a Life – ‘For Some People’

By Melanie Arter | February 3, 2014 | 1:03 PM EST

Robert Traynham, former aide to Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) (AP Photo)

( – During a segment titled “bipartisan support for sentencing reform” on MSNBC’s “Melissa Harris-Perry” show on Saturday, Robert Traynham, former aide to Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), explained that neither libertarians nor conservatives want government in their lives – except, Harris-Perry said, when it comes to pregnancy.

“But that’s different, because that’s a life involved – for some people,” Traynham said before steering the conversation back to sentencing reform and the bipartisan efforts of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). Traynam, who is openly gay, also worked on the presidential campaign of George W. Bush, who is pro-life. Santorum, a former presidential candidate, is also pro-life.

As previously reported, Deputy Attorney General James Cole told the New York State Bar Association annual meeting last week that Obama can and will “take executive action” to commute the sentences of “low-level” drug offenders.

“We’re continuing to talk about the fact that the president in the State of the Union said he was going to take some action on his own, and now the Department of Justice working along with the president to potentially change what’s going on with sentencing,” Harris-Perry said.

“It does feel to me like part of the space that’s made here is from the kind of libertarian, tea party aspect that says, ‘Less government’ and particularly less government in these ways. Is this the thing that allows like this aspect of the Republican Party to fall in line or to be supportive of this move by the president?” she asked.

“Absolutely, because at the end of the day, whether it’s libertarianism or conservatism, no one wants to government in your life, in that context. When you take a look at Rand Paul—” Traynor began to answer.

“They just want it in your life about the pregnancy, yeah,” Harris-Perry said.

“But that’s different, because that’s a life involved – for some people – but having said that, when you take a look at Rand Paul – we can talk about that on another show,” Traynham responded.