IRS Commissioner: 'I Don’t Remember When I Was Told or By Whom' That Lerner's Emails Were Lost

June 24, 2014 - 1:48 PM

At last night's hearing, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen testified that he doesn't remember "when I was told or by whom" that Lois Lerner's emails were missing.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) asked IRS Commissioner John Koskinen "what date did you learn that you could not get all of" Lois Lerner's emails?

"I learned that in April," said Koskinen. "I don't recall when."

"You don't know the day?" Jordan asked.

"I do not know the..." Koskinen began.

"Early April?" Jordan asked.

"I have no recollection," Koskinen said.

"Mid-April?" Jordan pressed him.

"April," Koskinen asserted strongly.

Jordan then yielded the time back to House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)

"You only know within a month?" asked Issa. "Could you provide the committee with some evidence from within the calendar of what day you were briefed?"

"I'd be delighted to," said Koskinen. "But there'll be nothing on my calendar that shows that, but you can look at the entire month of my calendars."

"But who briefed you?" asked Issa.

At this point, Koskinen seemed to lose the aloof cool he maintained through much of the hearing, asking "pardon?" as if searching for an answer, before saying, "uhm, I don't recall who, I've met with, I've addressed, uh all of the people doing the work, I've talked to people as it goes along."

"Okay, so - your testimony today is that you don't remember the name of the person that told you sometime in April..." Issa said, before Koskinen cut him off.

"All I know is sometime in April I was aware a) that there had been emails lost, b) that we were reconstituting emails to the extent we could from other custodians and by mid-May we were able to determine..." Koskinen said.

"But you don't remember the name of the people who told you that?" Issa pressed.

"I don't remember when I was told or by whom," Koskinen insisted.